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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                         April 5, 2017                                                                                          
                           9:33 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Mia Costello, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Shelley Hughes, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Senator Kevin Meyer                                                                                                             
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Berta Gardner                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 95                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to the mariculture revolving loan fund and                                                                     
loans and grants from the fund; and providing for an effective                                                                  
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 94                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to trusts and powers of appointment; and                                                                       
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  95                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MARICULTURE REVOLVING LOAN FUND                                                                                    
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) STEVENS                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
03/16/17       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/16/17       (S)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
04/05/17       (S)       L&C AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  94                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: TRUSTS; COMM PROP TRUSTS; POWERS OF APPT                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) COSTELLO                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
03/13/17       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/13/17       (S)       L&C, JUD                                                                                               
03/30/17       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/30/17       (S)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
04/05/17       (S)       L&C AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TIM LAMKIN, Staff                                                                                                               
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 95 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
BRITTENY CIONI-HAYWOOD, Director                                                                                                
Division of Economic Development                                                                                                
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions related to SB 95.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JULIE DECKER, Administrative Officer II                                                                                         
Division of Behavioral Health                                                                                                   
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions and provided information                                                               
related to SB 95.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
LARRY COTTER, CEO                                                                                                               
Aleutian Pribilof Island Community Development Association                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered supporting testimony on SB 95.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WESTON EILER, Staff                                                                                                             
Senator Mia Costello                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 94 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MATTHEW BLATTMACHR, Vice President                                                                                              
Peak Trust Company                                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided supporting information related to                                                                
SB 94.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DAVID G. SHAFTEL, J.D., LL.M.                                                                                                   
Shaftel Law Offices, P.C.                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Raised concerns with SB 94.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:33:09 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MIA COSTELLO called the  Senate Labor and Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 9:33  a.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Gardner, Meyer,  and Chair Costello. Senators                                                               
Hughes and Stevens arrived soon thereafter.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
             SB  95-MARICULTURE REVOLVING LOAN FUND                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:34:07 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO announced the consideration of SB 95.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:34:59 AM                                                                                                                    
TIM LAMKIN, Staff, Senator Gary Stevens, Alaska State                                                                           
Legislature introduced SB 95 on behalf of the sponsor speaking                                                                  
to the following sponsor statement:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This  bill  amends   the  existing  Alaska  Mariculture                                                                    
     Revolving Loan  Fund to  allow up  to forty  percent of                                                                    
     the fund  to be used  for loans to  permitted shellfish                                                                    
     hatcheries for planning, construction and operation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska shellfish  farms currently do not  have a stable                                                                    
     supply of seed  for the propagation of  oysters, and no                                                                    
     regular, in-state  source of seed for  resident aquatic                                                                    
     plants and other shellfish. A  stable supply of seed is                                                                    
     one of many hurdles the  industry must overcome to grow                                                                    
     and become a viable Alaskan industry.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This bill  will amend  the program  to shift  its focus                                                                    
     and eligibility from  individual mariculture farmers to                                                                    
     include  shellfish hatcheries  that would  market stock                                                                    
     to local Alaskan mariculture farmers.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  mariculture industry  in Alaska  is not  yet fully                                                                    
     developed,  and   is  extremely   high  risk,   from  a                                                                    
     financial  standpoint.  These  obstacles  make  private                                                                    
     financing  difficult  to  obtain, but  this  bill  will                                                                    
     enable Alaskans  to maintain their businesses  and grow                                                                    
     Alaska's mariculture industry.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:36:03 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS joined the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN provided the following sectional analysis for SB 95.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1:  Adds  a  declaration  of  policy  for  the                                                                    
     state's Mariculture Revolving  Loan Fund (AS 16.10.890-                                                                    
     16.10.945).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:  Amends a spanned  statutory citation  in AS                                                                    
     16.10.900 to conform to the  provision added by section                                                                    
     1 of the bill.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section   3:   Require   40  percent   of   the   money                                                                    
     appropriated to the  fund be used for  (1) making loans                                                                    
     to  state  residents   and  Alaskan  organizations  and                                                                    
     businesses  that operate  hatcheries  or aquatic  farms                                                                    
     for  the   purpose  of  producing  aquatic   plants  or                                                                    
     shellfish or conduct  shellfish enhancement projects or                                                                    
     (2) making  grants to certain nonprofits.  Requires the                                                                    
     remaining 60% of the funds  appropriated to the fund to                                                                    
     be used for other loans from the fund.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4:  Authorizes  the  Department  of  Commerce,                                                                    
     Community,  and  Economic Development  (department)  to                                                                    
     make loans  to an eligible applicant  for the planning,                                                                    
     construction,  and operation  of  a  (1) hatchery  that                                                                    
     artificially  propagates   marine  aquatic   plants  or                                                                    
     shellfish   or  (2)   shellfish  enhancement   project.                                                                    
     Permits   the    department   to   make    grants   for                                                                    
     organizational   and  planning   purposes  to   certain                                                                    
     nonprofit   organizations.  Amends   spanned  statutory                                                                    
     citations to conform to the  provision added by section                                                                    
     1 of the bill.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5:  Limits the amount  the department  may make                                                                    
     in   grants  to   nonprofits  for   organizational  and                                                                    
     planning purposes, to $500,000.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6:  Expands the classes of  person eligible for                                                                    
     a  loan from  the fund  to include  state residents  or                                                                    
     entities  organized under  state  law that  (1) hold  a                                                                    
     permit to  operate a hatchery  or aquatic farm  for the                                                                    
     purposes of  producing aquatic  plants or  shellfish or                                                                    
     (2) conduct shellfish enhancement projects.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section  7:  Conforms  the residency  requirements  for                                                                    
     fund   loan  applicants   to   reflect  that   entities                                                                    
     organized under  state law are also  eligible for loans                                                                    
     from the fund.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8:  Establishes new loan  terms for  loans from                                                                    
     the  fund, including  a loan  cap of  $100,000/ 20-year                                                                    
     term  for residents,  and  $1,000,000/30-year term  for                                                                    
     existing mariculture farms.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:39:40 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES joined the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9: Provides  that a subsequent loan  may not be                                                                    
     made to  a resident  of the  state or  entity organized                                                                    
     under  the laws  of the  state that  holds a  permit to                                                                    
     operate a hatchery  or aquatic farm for  the purpose of                                                                    
     producing aquatic plants or  shellfish or that conducts                                                                    
     shellfish   enhancement   projects  if   the   person's                                                                    
     outstanding balance exceeds $1,000,000.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 10:   Allows a  loan to  be made from  the fund                                                                    
     for the purchase  of boats or vessels  determined to be                                                                    
     integral to the operation of a hatchery.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 11:  Amends a spanned statutory  citation in AS                                                                    
     16.10.915(d)  to  conform  to the  provision  added  by                                                                    
     section 1 of the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12:  Adds a  new subsection  to AS  16.10 .915.                                                                    
     Prohibits  the  department  from making  certain  loans                                                                    
     from  the fund  unless the  department determines  that                                                                    
     (1) a loan applicant's  hatchery or enhancement project                                                                    
     will  be managed  in a  manner  reasonably expected  to                                                                    
     result   in  repayment   of  the   loan  and   (2)  the                                                                    
     applicant's hatchery  or enhancement project is  in the                                                                    
     public interest.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 13:  Provides when  the department  may require                                                                    
     repayment of principal and interest  on loans made from                                                                    
     the  fund  to  residents  of  the  state,  or  entities                                                                    
     organized under the laws of  the state, that (1) hold a                                                                    
     permit to  operate a hatchery  or aquatic farm  for the                                                                    
     purpose  of producing  aquatic plants  or shellfish  or                                                                    
     (2) conduct shellfish enhancement projects.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section    14:   Provides    authority   for    certain                                                                    
     associations of  limited entry  permit holders  to levy                                                                    
     and collect  an assessment  from its members  to secure                                                                    
     or repay  a loan from  the fund. Allows  the department                                                                    
     to rely  on certain assessments in  deciding whether to                                                                    
     make a loan from the fund.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 15:  Amends a spanned statutory  citation in AS                                                                    
     16.10.935 to conform to the  provision added by section                                                                    
     1 of the bill.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  16: Adds  new  definitions  for AS  16.10.890-                                                                    
     16.10.945.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 17: Clarifies that changes  made by the bill to                                                                    
     loan terms  from the  fund do not  apply to  loans made                                                                    
     before the bill's effective date.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section  18:  Provides  the   bill  with  an  immediate                                                                    
     effective date.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:41:43 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO  asked  if  anyone had  reviewed  Section  14  to                                                               
determine  whether an  association can  collect tax  because that                                                               
authority resides with the state.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN  clarified that  it is a  voluntary assessment,  not a                                                               
tax. The  fees that are  collected are  used to help  promote the                                                               
operation of the organization.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked if this industry pays a tax to the state.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LAMKIN offered  his understanding  that it  will eventually.                                                               
These hatcheries  have received  startup funding  through capital                                                               
budget  grants. They  produce seed  and sell  it to  farmers. The                                                               
individuals that harvest the seafood pay the tax.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked how much tax is collected.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN  deferred the  question to  the Department  of Revenue                                                               
(DOR).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:43:39 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GARDNER referred to the  qualifying language in Section 6                                                               
and asked  if a nonresident  could qualify  for a loan  from this                                                               
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LAMKIN  said  his  understanding  is  that  the  program  is                                                               
specifically limited to Alaska residents.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER  said she  hopes to hear  from someone  who could                                                               
specify whether a nonresident could hold a permit to operate.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN suggested DCCED respond to the question.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  asked if it  is advisable  to make these  loans to                                                               
such a high-risk industry.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN said  it's a policy call,  but this is one  of the few                                                               
ways  for the  state to  promote the  development of  its natural                                                               
resources. He  added that  it could  be argued  that it  would be                                                               
impossible  for  these  hatcheries  to secure  financing  in  the                                                               
private sector.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked where the money for the loans comes from.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN explained that the  fund was capitalized with about $5                                                               
million;  about $500,000  has been  loaned; and  the payments  on                                                               
those  loans   help  support  the   fund.  He   deferred  further                                                               
explanation to DCCED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  said he'd  like the department  to comment  on the                                                               
success of the loan fund.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:46:52 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked Ms. Cioni-Haywood  to give  some background                                                               
on  the  fund,   its  activity  since  inception,   and  why  the                                                               
department supports it.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BRITTENY   CIONI-HAYWOOD,   Director,    Division   of   Economic                                                               
Development,  Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and  Economic                                                               
Development (DCCED),  explained that the fund  was capitalized in                                                               
2012  with  a $5  million  appropriation.  Five loans  have  been                                                               
issued  for  a total  of  about  $500,000  and the  cash  balance                                                               
available  for  lending is  about  $4.5  million. She  said  it's                                                               
difficult  to  describe the  success  of  the  fund since  it  is                                                               
relatively new  and will take  some time to get  established. The                                                               
division has  done outreach and  suggested ways to  further loans                                                               
within  the  industry.  Because  the  industry  is  growing,  the                                                               
division  anticipates making  additional  loans. She  highlighted                                                               
that two applications were submitted recently.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES  asked if  the industry  is new  to Alaska  or new                                                               
overall and  opined that  loans to a  new industry  would present                                                               
more risk.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CIONI-HAYWOOD  said the  industry  is  only new  to  Alaska.                                                               
British  Columbia, California,  Washington,  Oregon, New  Zealand                                                               
and others have had shellfish operations for some time.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:49:48 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  responded, "I'm hoping  someone else  can address                                                               
that just so we know what we're getting into."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  advised that  Julie  Decker  Larry Cotter  could                                                               
provide additional information.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER  directed  attention  to  the  new  language  in                                                               
Section 6  that says loan applicants  shall be a resident  of the                                                               
state  or an  entity  organized  under Alaska  laws  that hold  a                                                               
permit  to operate  a hatchery  or conduct  shellfish enhancement                                                               
projects. She asked  if current law allows a  nonresident to hold                                                               
one of those permits.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CIONI-HAYWOOD  said she believes  a nonresident could  form a                                                               
nonprofit under  the state,  but she would  need to  confirm that                                                               
with another agency.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER   said  it's  something  the   committee  should                                                               
consider.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked  if the fund charges the  going interest rate                                                               
or if it is higher to reflect high risk.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CIONI-HAYWOOD advised that the current rate is 5 percent.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked how that compares to a similar bank loan.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CIONI-HAYWOOD  said the  banking  industry  would likely  be                                                               
hesitant to issue a loan  in this industry. However, the interest                                                               
rate  for  the loan  programs  administered  by the  Division  of                                                               
Economic  Development are  often set  in statute  so they  aren't                                                               
really risk-based.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  said it sounds  like the rate fluctuates  with the                                                               
prime rate and is set in statute.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. CIONI-HAYWOOD offered  to provide details on how  the rate is                                                               
set.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  asked what revenue  the state receives  from these                                                               
loans, including tax.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CIONI-HAYWOOD  said she  isn't  aware  of  any tax  that  is                                                               
collected on the industry.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:53:52 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO asked  how the division assesses the  success of a                                                               
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CIONI-HAYWOOD said  one marker  is that  the fund  revolves.                                                               
That means the  division is making loans  and receiving payments,                                                               
that the fund is growing, and  that jobs are being created in the                                                               
particular sector.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:54:45 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO opened public testimony on SB 95.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:54:56 AM                                                                                                                    
JULIE  DECKER, Alaska  Fisheries  Development Foundation  (AFDF),                                                               
said  AFDF broadly  represents the  seafood  industry in  Alaska,                                                               
including harvesters, processors,  and support sector businesses.                                                               
They work  in areas  of research and  development that  will help                                                               
the industry  and communities in  which the industry  works. AFDF                                                               
recently became  involved in helping to  expedite the development                                                               
of mariculture. There is tremendous  opportunity for the industry                                                               
in  Alaska and  expansion  is  occurring in  other  parts of  the                                                               
world.  Reports indicate  that  China is  making  a $200  million                                                               
investment in eastern Russia to  grow sea cucumbers, mussels, and                                                               
scallops. Those  three species already  grow in Alaska.  She said                                                               
that AFDF  has been focusing  on the developmental  challenges in                                                               
Alaska, which  includes putting  together the  Alaska Mariculture                                                               
Initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She said the  governor supported the initiative  and put together                                                               
a taskforce that is charged  with delivering a comprehensive plan                                                               
about how  to strategically develop  the industry.  AFDF's vision                                                               
is to  grow a billion-dollar industry  in 30 years. To  get there                                                               
it's important  to fix  the developmental  issues now,  she said.                                                               
The taskforce  has identified the  issue of access  to consistent                                                               
and quality shellfish and seaweed seed  as an issue that has been                                                               
constraining the  industry. With  the exception for  oysters, all                                                               
the seed  must be  produced in  the state  of Alaska.  That means                                                               
these hatcheries need to be supported so the industry can grow.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DECKER  addressed  the  question about  risk  by  drawing  a                                                               
parallel  to the  robust salmon  enhancement  program and  salmon                                                               
hatcheries  the  state put  in  place  in  the 1980s.  The  state                                                               
balanced  the risk  initially by  establishing  a revolving  loan                                                               
fund.  Thirty  years  later salmon  hatcheries  are  contributing                                                               
hundreds  of millions  of dollars  to the  economy and  the loans                                                               
have been  paid back with interest.  She said, "We think  this is                                                               
following a similar  model, and can be very  successful too." She                                                               
noted that the bill also  allows for the possibility of voluntary                                                               
assessments by industry to help pay back those funds.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:59:30 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO asked her to talk  about the change the bill makes                                                               
to make the loans accessible to  other groups. She also asked her                                                               
to speak to the philosophy behind  the grant portion of the fund,                                                               
which is new.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. DECKER  explained that the  bill essentially breaks  the fund                                                               
into two pieces; 60 percent  is allocated for access by shellfish                                                               
or  seaweed farmers  and 40  percent  is eligible  for access  by                                                               
shellfish or seaweed hatcheries  or organizations doing shellfish                                                               
enhancement work.  For example, if an  organization formed around                                                               
the  king crab  enhancement work  that  has been  ongoing at  the                                                               
research  level,  they  could  apply  for loan  funds  to  do  an                                                               
enhancement program. Similarly, sea  cucumber divers in Southeast                                                               
who  have been  doing  research could  formally  form around  the                                                               
enhancement project and apply for loan funds.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Addressing the question about the  grant portion of the fund, she                                                               
explained that the  bill allows up to $500,000 of  the $2 million                                                               
that  is  eligible  to  these   new  applicants  for  grants.  An                                                               
applicant  could receive  a $100,000  grant for  organization and                                                               
planning purposes. She  said this loan fund is  modeled after the                                                               
Fisheries Enhancement Revolving Loan  Fund for salmon hatcheries.                                                               
That fund  initially was intended  to help them organize  and get                                                               
them started.  That is the intention  of the grant -  to move the                                                               
industry forward and get applicants ready for a loan.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO said she appreciates  the explanation of the grant                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES  asked her to  speak to  the track record  of this                                                               
industry in  other jurisdictions and to  the nonresident question                                                               
mentioned earlier.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DECKER said  this is  not a  new industry  in other  places.                                                               
Taylor  Shellfish in  Washington is  a third-generation  business                                                               
and is  the third  largest shellfish grower  in the  nation. That                                                               
company  recently announced  a projected  $30 million  production                                                               
increase  in  2017 for  an  annual  total  of $100  million.  New                                                               
Zealand  has a  $400 million  mariculture industry  that produces                                                               
mussels, oysters, and  king salmon that is projected  to reach $1                                                               
billion annually  by 2025.  Alaska has  a large  existing seafood                                                               
industry  that marries  well with  the mariculture  industry, she                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Addressing the  second part  of the  question, she  said eligible                                                               
applicants  refers  to  either   nonprofits  or  corporations.  A                                                               
nonprofit  would most  likely be  doing enhancement  work because                                                               
the shellfish  they put out  become common property.  There would                                                               
be no  incentive for  a corporation  to do that  kind of  work. A                                                               
hatchery  could  potentially  be a  privately-owned  business  or                                                               
nonprofit. Alaska's  two hatcheries are in  Ketchikan and Seward,                                                               
and  both  are  nonprofit.  Hatcheries  generally  are  not  very                                                               
profitable, but  larger companies in  the Lower 48  are sometimes                                                               
willing to  subsidize their  own hatchery  because they  need the                                                               
seed. Taylor Shellfish has done  this. She said the entities must                                                               
be organized in the state so  there must be a state presence, but                                                               
it  is  outside her  expertise  to  know  if  there would  be  an                                                               
incentive for nonresidents to form  a corporation or nonprofit in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:06:09 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  GARDNER said  she  read Section  6  more thoroughly  and                                                               
believes it says the applicant must be a resident.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO observed that the language could be tightened.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:07:16 AM                                                                                                                   
LARRY   COTTER,   CEO,   Aleutian   Pribilof   Island   Community                                                               
Development Association (APICDA),  said APICDA is one  of the six                                                               
community development quota groups  that exist in western Alaska.                                                               
He  said  the  purpose  of  APICDA is  to  develop  stable  local                                                               
economies   in   local   communities,   focusing   on   fisheries                                                               
development  and tourism.  They have  processing plants  in False                                                               
Pass and  Atka. In the past  few years they have  spent about $23                                                               
million  expanding  the  plant   in  False  Pass  and  anticipate                                                               
spending about $20 million to expand the plant in Atka in 2018.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He said  that APICDA  supports passage  of SB 95  and one  of its                                                               
members sits  on the  taskforce. He  said there  is talk  of this                                                               
being a  new industry but  he looks at  it in two  parts: seaweed                                                               
and  shellfish. Seaweed  is  a new  industry  in Alaska,  whereas                                                               
shellfish has been around for a while.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. COTTER  reported that he  met with a representative  from the                                                               
Department of  Energy several  months ago  and they  talked about                                                               
federal   funds  that   would  be   available  to   help  develop                                                               
mariculture  in   Alaska  and   other  places.   He  specifically                                                               
mentioned algae that  can be grown and used as  a fuel source. He                                                               
said  the cost  of operations  and the  cost of  energy in  rural                                                               
Alaska is  extraordinary and APICDA  is constantly  searching for                                                               
ways to make  the plant in each community viable.  He opined that                                                               
mariculture  offers  an opportunity  if  there  is adequate  seed                                                               
available in the state. He said  that APICDA is prepared to spend                                                               
the money  to buy the  seed, plant it,  grow it, process  it, and                                                               
sell it.  He concluded  saying, "This just  seems like  a perfect                                                               
opportunity for the state to help."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER asked  if efforts  to create  jobs in  rural areas                                                               
have been successful because fishing  and the seafood industry in                                                               
general has a poor track record of hiring Alaskans.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. COTTER said  yes and no; the seafood processing  sector has a                                                               
terrible record of hiring Alaskans,  but APICDA exclusively hires                                                               
Alaskans. It  is not always  100 percent hire from  the community                                                               
but that is the goal.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked if these jobs are seasonal or year-round.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  COTTER  said the  seafood  jobs  would be  year-round.  "You                                                               
harvest  a crop  and  plant a  new one.  Ideally  you would  have                                                               
several crops  going at a  time so that  you are able  to operate                                                               
consistently." He pointed out that  every community in the region                                                               
that has a  year-round seafood processing plant  is stable. Every                                                               
community that  does not have  one is in  a state of  decline. He                                                               
opined that creating year-round  opportunity is a fundamental key                                                               
to success in rural Alaska.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:14:16 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR STEVENS  pointed out  that in  Kodiak the  Filipinos that                                                               
came over and  started working in the cannery  were not citizens.                                                               
Now they  are contributing citizens  who own businesses  and work                                                               
in the industry. He thanked Mr. Cotter for his perspective.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:14:51 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  COSTELLO closed  public testimony  on SB  95 and  held the                                                               
bill in committee for further review.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:15:10 AM                                                                                                                   
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
         SB  94-TRUSTS;COMM PROP TRUSTS; POWERS OF APPT                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:18:15 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  COSTELLO   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration of SB  94. She stated that the intent  is to hear a                                                               
high-level  overview of  the bill  and take  public testimony.  A                                                               
detailed  sectional analysis  will  be provided  in a  subsequent                                                               
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:19:37 AM                                                                                                                   
WESTON EILER, Staff, Senator Mia Costello, Alaska State                                                                         
Legislature, introduced SB 94 on behalf of the sponsor speaking                                                                 
to the following sponsor statement:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Senate  Bill  94  improves   estate  and  tax  planning                                                                    
     options  for  both   Alaskan  and  non-Alaskans.  Since                                                                    
     passage  of the  Alaska Trust  Act and  enhancements to                                                                    
     state policy in 1990s, Alaska  has been a leader in the                                                                    
     estate   planning   industry   allowing   Alaskans   to                                                                    
     establish  trusts   to  the  benefit  of   our  state's                                                                    
     economy.    This    legislation    advances    Alaska's                                                                    
     competitive  advantage  through three  improvements  in                                                                    
     the area of trust and estate planning law.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     "Decanting"  is   a  commonly  used  tool   to  correct                                                                    
     drafting errors, reduce  costs of trust administration,                                                                    
     and other reasons. Just as  wine is decanted by pouring                                                                    
     liquid from one container  to another - trust decanting                                                                    
     happens  when  one trust  pays  its  assets to  another                                                                    
     trust. Decanting  is used by  Alaskans who  are looking                                                                    
     to  update their  trust documents.  The flexibility  it                                                                    
     provides  also  allows  non-residents  to  bring  their                                                                    
     business to Alaska. Alaska has  had a decanting statute                                                                    
     for  nearly  20 years,  Senate  Bill  94 would  provide                                                                    
     additional  flexibility   and  clarification   to  this                                                                    
     statute provision.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     SB  94 also  clarifies  certain aspects  of Alaska  law                                                                    
     relating to  Powers of Appointment  in statute  so they                                                                    
     can be used more efficiently.  One of the most powerful                                                                    
     estate planning  tools is to  grant someone, such  as a                                                                    
     beneficiary,  a "power  of  appointment," which  allows                                                                    
     that person  the right to  specify where  property will                                                                    
     pass  at certain  times, such  as when  the beneficiary                                                                    
     dies.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     SB 94  would clarify  state law to  say that  a trustee                                                                    
     can acquire insurance to protect  the trust assets from                                                                    
     claims  of third  parties and  the  trustee from  third                                                                    
     party  and   beneficiary  claims  and  to   charge  the                                                                    
     premiums  to  the  trust. Alaska  law  grants  trustees                                                                    
     powers to  acquire insurance to protect  the trust from                                                                    
     claims from third parties;  however, certain aspects of                                                                    
     the powers are ambiguous and in need of clarification.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     These laws  and others enacted by  the Legislature have                                                                    
     benefitted  Alaskans,  has   resulted  in  millions  of                                                                    
     dollars  being deposited  in financial  institutions in                                                                    
     the  state  which  has   provided  capital  for  Alaska                                                                    
     businesses,  and  provided  significant work  for  many                                                                    
     Alaskans.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  EILER  directed attention  to  the  letters of  support  and                                                               
background documents in the bill packets.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked Mr. Blattmachr  to provide some  history of                                                               
Alaska trust law and why this bill is needed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:25:32 AM                                                                                                                   
MATTHEW   BLATTMACHR,  Vice   President,   Peak  Trust   Company,                                                               
explained  that when  the  legislature passed  the  Trust Act  in                                                               
1997, it  made Alaska the  premier jurisdiction to do  trusts and                                                               
estate planning.  SB 94 seeks  to continue that by  expanding the                                                               
laws  regarding decanting  and powers  of appointment.  These are                                                               
two areas where Alaska has fallen behind other states.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER asked for clarification  that the bill applies to                                                               
irrevocable  trusts,  and  that  the things  the  bill  seeks  to                                                               
achieve can already be done with a revocable trust.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLATTMACHR  confirmed  that   SB  94  primarily  deals  with                                                               
irrevocable trusts,  and that there  are some  capabilities, such                                                               
as  decanting,  that  irrevocable  trusts  offer  that  revocable                                                               
trusts do  not have. With  decanting for example, you  can revoke                                                               
or make  an amendment  to a revocable  trust without  a technical                                                               
mechanism,  whereas  an  irrevocable   trust  cannot  be  changed                                                               
without a legal mechanism. Should  a trust need to update itself,                                                               
decanting is the mechanism to do that.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER  asked if  any  provisions  in  SB 94  apply  to                                                               
revocable trusts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLATTMACHR said  the  insurance piece  and  the tracking  of                                                               
trust assets  would apply to  revocable trusts, "but  those would                                                               
likely  only fall  if you  were using  a trustee  other than  the                                                               
grantor."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  asked  which  sections  of  the  bill  apply  to                                                               
insurance and tracking trust assets.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLATTMACHR  said that Sections  2 and 3 address  the purchase                                                               
of insurance and Section 23 addresses tracking trust assets.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  asked if  Alaskans are  taking advantage  of the                                                               
trust laws. He  also asked how the state benefits  from the trust                                                               
business.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLATTMACHR  said Alaska's trust laws  attract nonresidents to                                                               
do  their planning  business  here and  Alaskans  that do  estate                                                               
planning  in  the  state  are  similarly  benefitted.  The  state                                                               
benefits several  ways one of which  is from the 2.7  percent tax                                                               
on  life  insurance  premiums.  He explained  that  in  1999  the                                                               
legislature  passed a  tax  regime that  is  very attractive  for                                                               
those in a  high tax bracket. That has  attracted nonresidents to                                                               
purchase large  policies and Alaska  receives about $7  million a                                                               
year from the  premium tax. The state also benefits  from the fee                                                               
that is paid to register a  trust with the state. Many trusts use                                                               
LLCs and those pay a biannual tax to the state.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  asked  what percentage  of  Alaskans  use  this                                                               
versus  the  percentage  of nonresidents  that  do  their  estate                                                               
planning in Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLATTMACHR  said  Peak Trust  sees  more  non-Alaskans  than                                                               
Alaskans for planning because Alaskans  don't need their services                                                               
as a corporate  trustee. However, many of  the practitioners that                                                               
Peak Trust works with do most of their planning for Alaskans.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:33:12 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR MEYER asked for an explanation of the fees.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLATTMACHR  said  every irrevocable  trust  is  supposed  to                                                               
register with the state and pay a $40 fee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked how many trusts are formed in Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLATTMACHR said  his organization has opened  more than 2,800                                                               
trusts, all of which have been registered with the state.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  asked what  makes Alaska trust  laws so  much more                                                               
attractive compared to other states.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLATTMACHR said  there are  a  variety of  things that  make                                                               
Alaska  the premier  jurisdiction  including: the  ability to  do                                                               
self-settled trusts; the  rule that allows trusts  to continue in                                                               
perpetuity; and the  option to adopt opt-in  community trust laws                                                               
that  allow the  surviving  spouse  to get  a  double step-up  in                                                               
basis.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  asked if someone who  wants to form a  trust works                                                               
through a financial planner, an attorney, or both.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLATTMACHR  said there  are  a  variety  of ways  but  legal                                                               
counsel is needed to draft the trust.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:36:07 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  COSTELLO opened  public testimony  on SB  94 and  directed                                                               
members' attention  to the  letter of  opposition in  the packets                                                               
from David Shaftel.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:36:45 AM                                                                                                                   
DAVID G. SHAFTEL, J.D., LL.M.,  Shaftel Law Offices, P.C., stated                                                               
that he  is an attorney in  Anchorage who has been  practicing in                                                               
the area of  estate planning and estate  and trust administration                                                               
since  the  early 1980s.  He  is  also a  member  of  a group  of                                                               
attorneys   and  trust   officers  who   have  worked   with  the                                                               
legislature  since  1998 to  improve  Alaska's  trust and  estate                                                               
statutes to make it one of the premier jurisdictions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He  reported  that  he participated  in  drafting  the  decanting                                                               
provisions in the bill. These are  found in Sections 4-22 and 24-                                                               
28.  He  explained  that  decanting  is a  way  of  modifying  an                                                               
existing  trust to  make changes  or cure  problems. He  said the                                                               
current  statutes  have  safeguards   to  protect  the  settler's                                                               
intent, but the proposed provisions  relating to decanting do not                                                               
provide  adequate  safeguards  for  Alaskans  who  have  existing                                                               
trusts.  The  proposed  provisions  would apply  to  every  trust                                                               
that's been created, not just future trusts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He provided an example of a  typical estate plan where the assets                                                               
go to the surviving spouse then  when that person dies the assets                                                               
go to  the children  in equal shares.  Under current  statute the                                                               
trustee  is  governed  by  an  ascertainable  standard  which  is                                                               
typically   health,   education,    maintenance,   and   support.                                                               
Unfortunately, he said,  the proposed provisions of SB  94 do not                                                               
provide this  kind of protection.  As proposed, a trustee  who is                                                               
not  a settler  or  a beneficiary  can  change the  ascertainable                                                               
standard to one  of absolute discretion. The  interest of certain                                                               
beneficiaries  can  be eliminated  to  the  benefit of  just  one                                                               
favored beneficiary.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHAFTEL advised  that  he submitted  a  memo describing  his                                                               
concerns  and offered  suggestions  to tighten  the  bill if  the                                                               
committee  feels  this type  of  flexibility  is desirable.  This                                                               
includes several suggestions for  giving notice to everyone about                                                               
what is  occurring and for  increasing the  fiduciary obligations                                                               
of the trustee.  He also submitted an email from  the reporter of                                                               
the Uniform Trust  Decanting Act. This is a uniform  law that was                                                               
enacted  in 2015.  The reporter  is  Susan Bart,  an attorney  in                                                               
Chicago. She was  very critical of these  proposed provisions and                                                               
how  they  affect  the  settler's intent  and  the  possible  tax                                                               
consequences of these types of provisions.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:42:19 AM                                                                                                                   
The  present  law  protects  the  settler's  intent  through  the                                                               
ascertainable  standard, but  the  proposed bill  does away  with                                                               
that  distinction.  The  new  approach  focuses  on  who  is  the                                                               
trustee.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He noted that  he submitted a memo highlighting  the deficits and                                                               
offering  suggestions  to  tighten   the  bill  if  the  proposed                                                               
flexibility  is  desirable.  There are  several  suggestions  for                                                               
giving  notice  for everyone  about  what  is occurring  and  for                                                               
increasing  the fiduciary  obligations  of the  trustee. He  also                                                               
submitted an email from attorney  Susan Bart, the reporter of the                                                               
Uniform Trust Decanting Act. He said  she is very critical of the                                                               
proposed provisions and how they  affect the settler's intent and                                                               
the possible tax consequences of the flexible provisions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO said committee members  have copies of your letter                                                               
and the  email from  Susan Bart is  being distributed.  She asked                                                               
Mr. Shaftel  to continue  his public testimony  when the  bill is                                                               
heard again.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:45:49 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  COSTELLO held  SB 94  in committee  with public  testimony                                                               
open.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:46:06 AM                                                                                                                   
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Costello  adjourned the Senate Labor  and Commerce Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 10:46 a.m.                                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 94 - Background Document - Decanting Matrix.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94 - Background Document - Trust & Estate Glossary.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94 - Background Document - Decanting Rankings.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94 - Fiscal Note - Law.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94 - Opposition Letter - David Shaftel.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94 - Sectional Analysis.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94 - Support Letter - AK Bankers Assoc..pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94 - Support Letter - Manley Brautigam.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94 - Support Letter - Northern Law Group.PDF SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94.PDF SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 95 - Fiscal Note - ADF&G.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Fiscal Note - DCCED.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Sectional Analysis.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Support Letter - AFDF.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Support Letter - AMTF.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Support Letter - APICDA.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Support Letter - City of Wrangell Resolution.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Support Letter - City of Wrangell.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Support Letter - OceansAlaska.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Support Letter - Southeast Conference.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Support Letter - SWAMC.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95 - Support Letter - UFA.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 95.PDF SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 38 - Opposition Letter - Aetna.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 38
SB 94 - Support Letter - Manley & Brautigam.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94 - Support Letter - Peak Trust Company.pdf SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94
SB 94 - Support Letter - Pioneer Wealth Solutions.PDF SL&C 4/5/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 94